I was wondering what types of lard are ok for making soap. 2. Even the cracklings make good food, mixed into a batch of buttermilk cornbread. Whoops! Since the skin is our largest organ + absorbs whatever we put on it . You can definitely freeze the tallow, though I do recommend pouring it off into ice cube trays and freezing it in smaller amounts as it’s easier to measure out that way. I really did not know that much about the palm oil industry until about a year ago when I started making soap. I discovered that quite by accident when I first began my soaping adventure. Nice blog post! I’m guessing you’re vegan from your vehement response. I definitely thought long and hard about it before making a decision. She is vegetarian for non-religious reasons. ^_^ i think looking at the oil catagories will help a lot. From what I’ve read it’s more of a supplement than a replacement for lard or tallow, but if you experiment with it, do let me know . It is totally possible, but I really can’t speak for it, having never tried it myself. I’m sad for our lack of palm trees, though . My experience has been that I get hard bars that do not crack and the end product appears to be very moisturizing. I really like your idea about the tallow I am not sure how to use it if I could get some from our local grocery store. Secondly, (and I think this attest to how much we’ve been brainwashed by society and “norm”) does oil and fat really get you *clean*? Have you seen The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society? Hi Katy! The animal was killed for food, not soap. Should I have used less water or less lard. It’s awesome to hear that you’re experimenting and learning—I don’t mean to be condescending at all, that’s how I learned, and I’m a huge fan of it. I’m so glad I found you… I too, am a vegetarian, and I soap with tallow. and i’ve read it elsewhere too that you can make this soap without it being drying.www.mommypotamus.com/how-to-make-pure-coconut-oil-soap-for-cleansing-and-laundry/, i also use both lard and tallow for soap making and love them. Also, stay tuned—I’m trying to develop a vegan soap recipe that doesn’t use palm and isn’t stupid expensive to make . Sometimes I enjoy the simplicity of making Castile soap (100% Olive oil) and I have never had any problems with a soft bar, in fact I find these are some of my hardest bars after only a couple of weeks cure time. . I Substitute water with a combo of concentrated rosmarin infusion and sheep yogurt (we have wonderful organic sheep farmers here, but i guess you could use any kind of jogurt such as goat or cow)whereby jogurt is added at trace. I wonder if I should have discounted the water. I am seriously thinking about trying to start a buisness though. I have made a Vinolia recreation soap, inspired by you, and I love it! So I recomend to stir a lot and to filter your lye solution in order to avoid undissolved lye! He said he had quite a few people from his work asking what I wanted 20 lbs of beef fat for. If I know it will be several months, I weigh/label and put them in the freezer, but my grandmother always kept lard out without even refrigeration after the hog was butchered in metal coffee cans! Thanks so much, Susan! Having Respect for our planet has much to do with it. Thank you, Cecile! But hey, it’s something to think about. I will let you know how it turns out. Ha—it sounds like you’ve just learned a lesson it took me ages to learn. Animals are not here for us to make soap from- they feel pain and suffering, and we should be considerate of that. How long have you cured the soap? Both soaperschoice.com and brambleberry.com offer sustainable palm oil. Another vegetable milk that works even more effective (!!!) Thank You for being brave enough to post this. I have tried google searching articles about sustainable palm oil, but they are very conflicting. However, I wonder how do you superfat your soap? 250g coconut oil As more people recognize the ability of pastured animals to sustain and regenerate our soils, the more demand there is for grass-fed beef and forest-raised pork. This soap has a very high 73 rating for iodine (41 – 70 is the recommended range) and a 17 rating for cleansing (12-22 is the recommend range). I don’t know if they can be found in other countries or if they would be more expensive than shea butter, but if some of your readers live in a tropical country like I do, they probably have other options, too. Your soaps are so beautiful. You can technically use the soap right away, but the dry time will produce a nicer, harder bar of soap. It has been curing for about a week and I can’t wait to use it. than almondmilk is chufa milk – but as far as i know, chufa is only produced in Spain (but you could experiment with different vegetable milks). I finally got some more tallow for myself, so now I need to get making some soap. The answer is no. And that is a pretty darn good price for something that’s nearly pure fat; most recently I paid $99/kg, but the yield was pretty poor (less than 50% if I recall correctly). Lard. Step by step, we have traced the processing of animal fat into tallow, a simple skill which leaves little wasted. I think I will have to give one of your castile soaps a try when I can; it is very dry here so perhaps I won’t need a full 6 months! I would much rather have local; organic is just a label that often involves a lot of political fandangling to get—fuss that smaller farmers simply can’t afford or be bothered with. Just spent my morning reading every single comment here. My family seems to like it better too. Another tallow using -vegan in a previous life- soaper here that absolutely will not use palm! Hi, I am 100% in agreement with you on Palm Oil, and educating people on it’s content in many types of food, etc. G’Day, Marie. 79 g , I should really hit up my local farmer’s market… I don’t usually because I have a fruit stand that sells eggs, fruit, and veg, and that forms the great majority of my diet . I love that everyone shares and agrees to disagree. If you’ve never made soap before, I’d start with one that doesn’t use milk—it can be quite tricky to work with between avoiding curdling and scorching, and the hotter-than-usual saponification process that can cause the batch to curdle on you. I make mine with cocnut oil, crisco and olive oil.I find that it doesn’t last very long with use. I wouldn’t be worried about pore-clogging from fat that is 1) no longer fat, but soap and 2) washed off the skin very promptly Happy making! Most of my family and friends, as well as myself don’t eat pork. Your blog looks great, off to go look at some of the other entries! I eagerly await your next soaping adventure. Makes a nice lathering, hard bar of soap. I’m always happy to meet somebody who agrees with me, haha How did the bacon soap smell? I love your thoughtful responses to these questions. I wasn’t thinking about learning how to render elk tallow (or deer tallow or any other kind of tallow) when I started out with my latest bone broth adventure. So while I love soap made from animal fats, I just don’t know if I should compromise my value system regarding ingredients derived from genetically modified anything for the sake of convenience (plus, while it’s easy for me to obtain back fat from organic pigs, it’s difficult to get much tallow from grassfed cattle – they just don’t have much fat to begin with). One day, I might try making soap that way, just as an experiment. Strongly worded maybe but not vehement. …milk might still not fly with vegans though (i think, given they use no animal products at all…?) If I see a zombie stampede heading my way I know where to go. I’d rather use tallow/lard that knowingly support rainforest destruction. Tallow soap is really lovely—I marginally prefer it to lard soap , Thanks Marie, now it’s to see where I may find or how effectively I could make tallow, Here’s my article on how to turn trimmings from the butcher (which are often free!) I wonder if Ghee would make the same hard soap as tallow? Views: 241. How unfortunate that your country won’t allow the use of tallow or lard From what I understand you should be able to do a one-for-one swap over to palm oil. I hot processed mine, and at the last minute decided it looked a bit boring so I went to the pantry and grabbed some dried rosemary (BIG MISTAKE). In my neighborhood, people love stuff that LOOKS handmade and authentic so i dont worry about it too much. I guess this is kind of a chemistry question. All of your fat is melted together, and 5% won’t turn into soap. 4-6weeks cure time. I’m afraid I don’t have any experience soaping with lamb tallow, but it should make a nice soap as long as you can find a SAP value for it (soap calc has one) I’ve heard that rendering the fat with a chopped up potato in the pot can help absorb the meaty scent, and usually the scent doesn’t end up in final bars, but sheep is a bit smellier than beef, so I’m not sure if that would be the case here :/ I’ve had other readers ask about using lamb/sheep fat, but none of them have ever reported back with their results. OR, are they just “extra”? The question vegans ask about bees, is do they experience suffering? Am I perhaps being too strict? Good luck with that My friends & family keep encouraging me to do the same, but I’m hardly sitting about twiddling my thumbs, wondering what to do with all my free time these days Your husband/wife soaping company sounds like great fun, let me know if you decide to give it a go . Tallow can make a wonderful soap on its own, but bringing a variety of oils into the mixture will provide a better … The cost of my favorite handmade bath products became cost prohibitive so I decided, heck if it’s handmade, I should be able to make it. Some of my best friends are orangutans, and its fantastic to read this awareness coming about!. Lard soap is highly compatible with the structure of the human cells. I can’t wait to make more. I have sensitive skin and have had to do quite a bit of research to get on top of soap. I still wish I could figure out a way to send you the tallow. Happy soaping and thanks for reading! My reason for visiting your site was to find natural ways to make a bison tallow soap. I have deer fat that I will make into soap soon. All my “red-kids” thank you, and all the people who have fought for so long to bring this awareness to the general public. Here’s my go to recipe for my basic castile soap: I’m vegetarian too, and so I have been on the fence about lard and tallow. We had a glut of figs and I was so happy not to let them go to waste! Suet is not shelf-stable at room temp. My grandparents went “to the country” to meet up with the relatives to butcher chickens and came back with food for storage and “homemade soap”. That is quite a ways off as I still have some lye that I bought and will use it up first. Do you find you can use less essential oils? It does take longer to trace and I never have the patience to take my castile to a thick trace, thin to medium at best for me before I pour. Hi Marie, my friend is vego, and won’t use soap with lard or tallow, and I do understand, but the animal has already been killed, and a lot of it is being thrown away even though it is perfectly suitable to be used for other products and not just eaten, which is bad because we are prodipucing more landfill and wasting an already dead animal. I can’t wait to try it and see if it makes a better soap for me. I’ve definitely done that as a vegetarian because I care, and I assume most people with similar convictions would do the same. There are complicated laws here regarding selling meat, I know lifestyle block owners can’t sell theirs, so it means there is ALOT of waste (anything that isn’t tasty to you can’t be sold on). I'm using fat that my family saved for me from tacos and meatloaf. I agree with the lady who talks about making yours for personal use. The rosemary is super exfoliating (read: scratchy and sometimes painful lol), and has darkened to a blackish sort of colour, and worse, it starts poking out of the soap so it looks really quite menacing! There’s nothing quite as awesome as having oodles of new soap aging—except for maybe that week when they’re all ready at once! Since I like to talk, I’d call myself a “strict vegetarian with strong but not absolute vegan tendencies” Soooooo I’ll just stick to telling people I’m vegan to avoid that ear-full, haha. I think no one should use animal parts in their soap or anything else for the matter. If you render the tallow and strain it correctly, the soap will not smell like meat. I love the idea of being able to use my own if I can. I would NEVER, EVER use lard (even if it made the whitest + hardest bar) because I don’t eat pork or use items made with pork. My dogs did eat a rooster a couple days ago as a hawk had killed it. I have used it 2 days old, and probably about 6 months old. I have also looked at the labels of some nice soaps and they have Tallowate printed on the contents. It never boils or is “cooked” per sae. . Wonderful advice Rita. The cost of the bar? No rancidity, no beefy smell. I would really like to make some soap for disabled and elderly bunnies who can’t lick themselves, and give it to shelters and friends. In the simplest terms, rendering fat means to melt it at a low temperature just until the meat, blood and other debris solidifies, and the water evaporates. This topic I think, will always be a sensitive topic in the cosmetic DIY/industry. Palm oil plays an important role in the reduction of poverty in these areas. There’ an article here (she mentions you Marie!) However, at a 5% superfat, if you use 15% tallow, that’s about 0.75% of your superfat. Lard specifically refers to rendered pig fat, so there’s really only one kind of true lard. No, fat will not get you clean… but soap is not fat. I’m sort of hoarding it, trying to make sure every single gram goes into something where the decadent colour is a major bonus. I figure if it’s going to have a miserable life and be raised just to be killed, I might as well try to make that miserable life worth as much as possible That, and from what I have read CAFOs and all that are not as overly prevalent here in Canada… though that may just be lack of a spotlight on our meat industry as the USA’s gets so much attention. How are you making your own lye? Commercialism is too convenient. I truly appreciate you posting this! Lard soap lathers up with creamy, silky bubbles that are mild and gentle on your skin. And I sell my soaps at very reasonable prices to make up for lasting power. Thanks so much for reading & have fun with your soaping! This was my first time rendering directly from the skin only (no organ fat was included in the batch). Hard with a sharp knife be fantastic for mature skin so tallow is my tallow rendering... 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